Queen c2 would have been far faster for that mating pattern. Even if they moved that pawn on the G file forward, you could still take and get checkmate. Rook could block at f5, but then they have to keep the Rook there and something defending it like Bishop C8 is already doing.
Sorry I just can’t get on board with this one. The lesson seems to be, if your opponent blunders 3 times, you can still checkmate after you mess up. Isn’t this just the definition of hope chess?
Excellent video. It’s great to hear you break down your process, what you noticed and why you chose a certain move (sometimes stockfish agrees, sometimes it doesn’t, but human-vs-human this is what you think is the best attack).
I guess this kind of game is fine for <1000 elo games but you shouldn't assume that the opponent is going to play non-optimal moves. If the opponent makes a mistake, nice, but you should never sacrifice pieces with a plan that depends on opponent making blunders or bad moves.
Hello, first of all thank you for your great content, it helps me alot with getting better in chess. I have one question, why not after taking with the bishop: horse to d5, his horse probably takes and then taking with the queen would be a much easier and faster checkmate (If I don‘t miss anything, what could be the case, I am just 1.300) habe a great day and greetings from Austria
Pawn to g6 is the best move. If Rook f8 to g6, then check with rook h1 to h8. King takes then Qd4 to Qh5 check. King to g8, Qh7 check. King f8, Qh8 checkmate. Isn't it so?
@chess_vibes: You should make a video on defensive techniques: the opponent is threatening to carry out a strong attack, we have to spot the threat and guess what's the appropriate defensive move. (Or do you already have such a video?…)
I think the particular mating pattern is just bad advice with all due respect. At least in my head that's how i sound when I'm ablut to lose: "oh yeah if he goes abc i can checkmate him." Then of course he plays something else and i just lose 😢
You dont need a mating net/pattern to make the sacrifice good, you may just win material. For example, just cleaning up all the kingside pawns is often ample compensation for a piece.
I have notifications turned on and I'm subscribed and your videos aren't coming up on my recommended which is frustrating cause I keep missing your videos 😢
Funny thing, I just did this in a game last week, knowing I would be behind but that the opponent will crumble under pressure. I got to a position with some 5 points of pieces behind but won in the end. Quite fun!
Did exactly that the other day. I was losing real hard so i just sacrificed a piece to check the king. They took the bait and then all of a sudden i was winning.
I would have preferred someone of your calibre to discuss something a bit more significant but I found sometimes you weren’t even speaking with confidence. There are way too many variables in this to defend your moves.
I got click baited, there is no sound continuation after the bishop sac. The biggest blunder was imo not taking the knight. I calculated after fxg5, hxg5 kg6 (not giving an opportunity to play g6 to white where white would be better), i dont see how white attacks. If qc2+ then simply kf7 and next black will develop his white bishop or tuck his king in e8 and play be6. White just don't have enough firepower for a mate.
What about knight to g5 as first move as sacrifice. Black pawn takes it white takes with pawn which is taken by black bishop and then white bishop gives a check with support from its rook
When u sacrifice , it depends on who ur playing. There are so many smurf accounts that practice that it makes it difficult to get out of 500 to 600. Play 900 and it’s easier than 400 to 500.
On this topic I highly recommand to read Vukovic's book "The Art of Attack in Chess". I remember in particular that he gives a list of 4 criterias for greek gifts which he considers that usually the sacrifice is correct if you have at least 3 of these criterias fulfilled. I think one fo them was "is the center blocked?" (not really the case here, although it does become blocked after acceptation of the second sacrifice from the knight) and another one was "is there no black piece able to come control h7 in one move?" (also not the case here as potentially the Bc8 can come to f5). I forgot the two other criteria, I think one of them was having a Rh1/ph4 for potential h file opening (read that book almost 30 years ago), but the whole book was a little jewel for attacking players and with very good practical advices, definitely worth reading and studying.
Best move vs best chance to win the game are literally the same exact thing. They are NOT different as you propose. This whole video is nonsense justification for poor moves
Feels you concentrate quite a lot on "why am I right" and avoid all the "why am I wrong?" Sure if your oponents makes all the bad moves that allow you to capitalize on your "blunder", you win. But realistically, you are just hoping for them to blunder a few times in a row.
if you go to high depth and stockfish still says it's a blunder, don't try to pass it as a "it makes sense" in some situations. Yeah sure, if your oponents blunders out you can recover, but you ain't beating stockfish.
After the bishop "sacrifice" you just have a losing position, but after the further knight "sacrifice" the position would have been completely lost. That's what everyone is aspiring to !
Alternative title could be that you shouldn't just trust your opponent's sacrifices. Like you said, they can consolidate with Bf5 and the attack completely fizzles. After Qd1, Bf5 is not even an only move. Qe8, g6, even Bxg5 are all fine. I honestly think this game is just not a good example since the most obvious and forcing line is terrible for white with no compensation.
There's the Colle vs John O'Hanlon game where the computer doesn't love Colle's Greek gift, but the normal move of Kg6 in response was a blunder. Even Kg8 would've required a series of precise moves to keep his advantage.
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Queen c2 would have been far faster for that mating pattern. Even if they moved that pawn on the G file forward, you could still take and get checkmate. Rook could block at f5, but then they have to keep the Rook there and something defending it like Bishop C8 is already doing.
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if it was me, I would have dropped the queen behind the bishop before sacrificing. would that have been too slow?
You forgot that kxe1
2:32 en passant
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2:21 game is not over. Knight blocks queen and opens space for king to escape to the other side of the board.
Sorry I just can’t get on board with this one. The lesson seems to be, if your opponent blunders 3 times, you can still checkmate after you mess up. Isn’t this just the definition of hope chess?
Excellent video. It’s great to hear you break down your process, what you noticed and why you chose a certain move (sometimes stockfish agrees, sometimes it doesn’t, but human-vs-human this is what you think is the best attack).
10:18 just do a simple en passant its mate in 3 or less???
I guess this kind of game is fine for <1000 elo games but you shouldn't assume that the opponent is going to play non-optimal moves. If the opponent makes a mistake, nice, but you should never sacrifice pieces with a plan that depends on opponent making blunders or bad moves.
Hello, first of all thank you for your great content, it helps me alot with getting better in chess. I have one question, why not after taking with the bishop: horse to d5, his horse probably takes and then taking with the queen would be a much easier and faster checkmate (If I don‘t miss anything, what could be the case, I am just 1.300) habe a great day and greetings from Austria
It's a blunder not a sacrifice lol
Pawn to g6 is the best move. If Rook f8 to g6, then check with rook h1 to h8. King takes then Qd4 to Qh5 check. King to g8, Qh7 check. King f8, Qh8 checkmate. Isn't it so?
its a bad move according to stockfish because it doesn't work against stockfish
That's the difference between a Grandmaster and others…they don't think this "might" work, they see what WILL work.
Black to move to Kf7, e6+ ,be6,qh5+, kg8,g6 black queen has to take or gg
@chess_vibes: You should make a video on defensive techniques: the opponent is threatening to carry out a strong attack, we have to spot the threat and guess what's the appropriate defensive move.
(Or do you already have such a video?…)
I think the particular mating pattern is just bad advice with all due respect. At least in my head that's how i sound when I'm ablut to lose: "oh yeah if he goes abc i can checkmate him." Then of course he plays something else and i just lose 😢
You dont need a mating net/pattern to make the sacrifice good, you may just win material. For example, just cleaning up all the kingside pawns is often ample compensation for a piece.
Broski made a whole video trying to justify his blunder 💀
This not working at 1400 😅
I have notifications turned on and I'm subscribed and your videos aren't coming up on my recommended which is frustrating cause I keep missing your videos 😢
I don't like using strategies that rely on my opponent to make mistakes.
Funny thing, I just did this in a game last week, knowing I would be behind but that the opponent will crumble under pressure. I got to a position with some 5 points of pieces behind but won in the end. Quite fun!
Rf6 you win the queen after rook sac at h8
Art of chess – Chapter 4: Blunder atttacks.
You make great videos. Really good explanations. Many thanks for your time.
nice
Did exactly that the other day. I was losing real hard so i just sacrificed a piece to check the king. They took the bait and then all of a sudden i was winning.
It is a bad move
I would have preferred someone of your calibre to discuss something a bit more significant but I found sometimes you weren’t even speaking with confidence. There are way too many variables in this to defend your moves.
This is one of your worst videos.
I got click baited, there is no sound continuation after the bishop sac. The biggest blunder was imo not taking the knight. I calculated after fxg5, hxg5 kg6 (not giving an opportunity to play g6 to white where white would be better), i dont see how white attacks. If qc2+ then simply kf7 and next black will develop his white bishop or tuck his king in e8 and play be6. White just don't have enough firepower for a mate.
I feel like if you sack the bishop and the knight in this position, no one under 1500 will lose as black
What about knight to g5 as first move as sacrifice. Black pawn takes it white takes with pawn which is taken by black bishop and then white bishop gives a check with support from its rook
For the first question, it would help to know if you're playing white or black (paused at 0:24)
This video serves no purpose
When u sacrifice , it depends on who ur playing. There are so many smurf accounts that practice that it makes it difficult to get out of 500 to 600. Play 900 and it’s easier than 400 to 500.
This is a bit of a gambling chess …. hoping for a mistake is not really fun i think
On this topic I highly recommand to read Vukovic's book "The Art of Attack in Chess". I remember in particular that he gives a list of 4 criterias for greek gifts which he considers that usually the sacrifice is correct if you have at least 3 of these criterias fulfilled. I think one fo them was "is the center blocked?" (not really the case here, although it does become blocked after acceptation of the second sacrifice from the knight) and another one was "is there no black piece able to come control h7 in one move?" (also not the case here as potentially the Bc8 can come to f5). I forgot the two other criteria, I think one of them was having a Rh1/ph4 for potential h file opening (read that book almost 30 years ago), but the whole book was a little jewel for attacking players and with very good practical advices, definitely worth reading and studying.
Best move vs best chance to win the game are literally the same exact thing. They are NOT different as you propose. This whole video is nonsense justification for poor moves
I stuck at 1200 and this is what I wanted ❤
Feels you concentrate quite a lot on "why am I right" and avoid all the "why am I wrong?" Sure if your oponents makes all the bad moves that allow you to capitalize on your "blunder", you win. But realistically, you are just hoping for them to blunder a few times in a row.
if you go to high depth and stockfish still says it's a blunder, don't try to pass it as a "it makes sense" in some situations. Yeah sure, if your oponents blunders out you can recover, but you ain't beating stockfish.
NEVER suggest bad moves.
I'm wondering why you didn't think queen to C2 earlier. I saw that as the best move even before moving the bishop.
After the bishop "sacrifice" you just have a losing position, but after the further knight "sacrifice" the position would have been completely lost.
That's what everyone is aspiring to !
Alternative title could be that you shouldn't just trust your opponent's sacrifices. Like you said, they can consolidate with Bf5 and the attack completely fizzles. After Qd1, Bf5 is not even an only move. Qe8, g6, even Bxg5 are all fine. I honestly think this game is just not a good example since the most obvious and forcing line is terrible for white with no compensation.
There's the Colle vs John O'Hanlon game where the computer doesn't love Colle's Greek gift, but the normal move of Kg6 in response was a blunder. Even Kg8 would've required a series of precise moves to keep his advantage.