I Played Magnus Carlsen. He called it “Pretty Terrible.” I Disagree.

I Played Magnus Carlsen yet again…
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128 Comments

  1. That’s like doing cocaine minus the euphoria 😂 don’t splode

  2. The engine looked unhappy with your Rf-d8 move. What was a better alternative?

  3. Hi Eric! I'm an 1800 elo regular watcher – I learn a great deal from your content. I agree with some of the previous comments – it sounded to me that Magnus (just from his tones etc) is commenting about the game as a whole: saying the game is "trash" but in no way indicating that your performance was. If anything, he was commenting on his own sloppiness. You lasted for over 40 moves, right? And he identified you to his buddy by your name. Grats for being a figure of such stature! Enjoy your studies, and I hope for a "rematch" between you two, hopefully sometime soon.

  4. Erick, why did you put your knight onto B4 after the pawn instead of capturing it (and not castling).

  5. Sounded to me like Magnus was more mad at himself than the game.

  6. I think he called the game pretty terrible based on how he think he played. He called his play pretty terrible if you ask me, not the whole game.

  7. I find that whenever Magnus makes such comments, in the blunt criticism way, he's usually referring to himself. Typically when he refers to dubious moves his opponent makes, he phrases it as not understanding the purpose behind that move or he refutes the move by say, capturing a hung piece. He's not much for ridiculing his opponent's positions, but he's super blunt about his own mistakes. When he plays badly enough that someone many hundreds of ELO points below him is possibly better or clearly better, he says how badly he played.

    I find that he's pretty consistent about that, because he has a pretty good handle on when he's made a blunder or when his position is clearly losing or worse, but if his opponent is playing in a way he doesn't agree with or understand, he almost always leaves open the possibility he's missed something particularly in online chess where he's commenting and not spending a lot of time deeply analyzing the moves.

    I've seen quite a lot of Magnus playing people online, and especially in the games where he blunders or loses outright, his reactions are almost universally identical. Often he is playing an opening he knows is inferior so he knows his position is bad, so he can save lost or worse positions, points out the opening itself is bad. Sometimes he will make a move just to not waste too much time and later decide the move has definitely made his position worse, and the few times his opponent makes some brilliant attack or sack that he didn't see, he usually says something akin to wow, immediately tries to assess if he's being mated and if he can stop it, or if it is time to resign.

    He's usually not very prideful about his position, he suffers from a remarkable lack of arrogance for someone who could beat literally anyone. It's a very Norwegian perspective. I say this as an American living in Norway for 8 years now, this attitude is super common.

    Norwegian itself as a language is very blunt, for example, when you pay for gas, the machine tells you something that directly translates to "friendliest insert your card now." They throw in the word "friendliest" because otherwise, it sounds like the machine is being bluntly rude and ordering you around.

    The culture itself is very not egotistical. The belief is mainly that we're all in this together, we're a team, individuals who perform above expectations are helping the team, or making the country better, as opposed to personal glory.

    Because Norwegian is so blunt, and English is his second language, and he's not very arrogant or egocentric, he will usually dispassionately rip apart his own position using very blunt language, but watch how he phrases his criticism of his opponent's position. He tends to use that non-judgment language like I don't understand this move, or he thinks it is a mistake, especially because he is aware he could be missing something in the position that gives his opponent an edge.

    I think part of why he is so strong is that his skill level and experience never gives him a swelled head, he's constantly in a state of wondering how his position is bad or what mistakes he has made or leaves open the possibility he missed a brilliancy from his opponent.

    When the position is clearly bad for his opponent he can occasionally say something like that, but he's usually really confident his opponent is in a dead lost position at that point.

    Because his personality, culture he grew up with, and native language makes him inclined to harshly criticize himself and leave it open that his opponent is somehow better even against his best judgment, and because that perspective is usually wildly different from the norm, I find that Magnus' criticism of his own position often gets mistaken for criticism of his opponent.

    I have a similar thing where I'm too afraid of making a social mistake and too afraid of hurting someone else's feelings in person that I often freeze up and don't talk to people and people mistake that as be being too full of myself to talk to them. Inward harsh criticism OFTEN gets mistaken for outward criticism. People just don't expect it, they expect people to be rude and arrogant.

  8. Yo0u dont even know if one of those times was Magnus, it was an anonymous account.. Remember..

  9. At 9:42, ..axb4, why did you not recapture with the knight? Yes, you want to castle, but I see no downside to the recapture, or is there????

  10. I can't believe Magnus played in this right in the middle of the Chess Champions Tour.

  11. Bad luck & quite a flucuating, but interesting game, I think. Pity about the time trouble. Just judging by what the eval bar was doing, it looked like, after white's Qc1, there could be a better move than Ng4.

  12. I'm not sure if he called the game terrible; I think he might have meant "it was a tough game" as in it went terribly for him.

  13. I think he thought his game was terrible (since he got into a worse position and it was a bit chaotic game)

  14. If only this happened every titled Tuesday

  15. Eric Rosen, 76 years old: "kids, who want to listen to an horrot story… it was pretty terrible! it happened 46 years ago, and I was playing with a GOAT … "
    Kids: Me Me Me

  16. How do people get into these crazy time trouble against Magnus?

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